Police reveals only 15 people arrested for begging and rough sleeping in Suffolk

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    Should rough sleepers and ‘beggars’ in Suffolk be punished by police?

    During 2015 and 2016, 10 people were arrested for begging, according to data released by Suffolk Constabulary following a Freedom of Information request. Six of whom were charged, three were summoned to appear in court and one case was resolved within the community.

    While five others were detained and charged after they were “found on enclosed premises”, which a police spokesman said would mostly be people who were found sleeping on land where they had no right to be.

    Both crimes come under the Vagrancy Act 1824.

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    Is this a joke?

    The whole of Suffolk… in a year just 10 arrests for begging and 5 arrests for rough sleeping (involving trespass).

    In Ipswich the street rangers “deal with” the homelessness problem and begging and they obviously have no power of arrest.

    I was in Tacket St last week and this teenage girl approach some young woman who was eating a pizza from Greggs… begging for money because she was hungry. She clearly thought the woman would be an easy target compared to a man. She wasn’t interested in the pizza – didn’t even look at it. I rarely talk to people in public unless I know them or they talk to me first. I started a conversation along the lines of “she isn’t hungry”…

    Interesting to observe. She acted somewhat frail, eyes locked on to the target and wasn’t aware if it was safe to cross the road. Just wandered across. When she failed to get the money she pretty quickly walked (not run or jog) towards Upper Brook Street. Didn’t want to get caught.

    If you want to attract shoppers you need to eliminate this. I wasn’t sure if she just wanted some cash to buy alcohol/drugs/gamble at the end of the day or to steal a purse or wallet… she seemed like the latter which is why I paid so much attention. She came out of nowhere (alleyway from multi-storey car park I presume). I wouldn’t be surprised if she wasn’t working on behalf of someone else.

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    begging, experienced last two occasions when walking through town centre in last week; young scruffy chap eating a hot dog approached me in Dial Lane I think it was and started some speech which was going to end in him asking for change for some spurious purpose, I cut him off and carried on walking before he got to the punch line,  today outside the Great White Horse, as well as the usual collection of people hanging about I spotted a beggar asking a young lady walking along for money.  If these incidents aren’t enough to colour the experience of people using the town centre I don’t know what is.

    Like many other things there should be zero tolerance of all such activities. Its definitely getting worse.

     

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    Makes you wonder why the police aren’t interested in clamping down on it.

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    Makes you wonder why the police aren’t interested in clamping down on it.

    I suppose because they’re not social services, and are way too busy catching people speeding to help improve the experience of people trying to use the town centre.  People only come to Ipswich to beg and rough sleep because its being tolerated, and whilst I’m sure some are genuine cases as a country we should have the facilities to properly help these people. Whether genuinely homeless and really needing to sleep on the street, or playing at it for the money they can get its wrong, and as a 21st Century civilised country we should not have it.

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    The police resourcing pool is awful. Many moons ago a constable would have dealt with it. Now it isn’t a priority and they won’t deal with it.

    The police will still uphold authority of Government such as if the security guards at the jobcentre fail they will come along to remove said persons from the building.

    No one likes seeing the rough sleeping but we have always had people sleeping in shop doorways from time-to-time. It is the begging and anti-social behaviour we are seeing now  – including “homeless people” having their spots on bridges etc. – which is the significant problem.

    A lot of homeless in Ipswich now but it is the case that some are exploiting this to earn money instead of working; the authorities cannot help those people. Street rangers, borough council and police should not tolerate it.

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    To paraphrase one of  Mr Gummer’s recent communications;

    Good to see progress on Ipswich Station Forecourt – part of the National Station Improvement Programme the funding for which I helped secure. The initial plans did not have trees on the scheme so I pressed the council and Abellio and won 16 beautiful new London Plane trees on the scheme and lining Burrell Road.
    By 2021, visitors, investors and those returning home will arrive in Ipswich on a new, state of the art train, walk through a refurbished station and out onto a beautifully paved and tree lined station forecourt.
    These improvements were not only about improving the connection from Ipswich to London from which commuters and Ipswich businesses will certainly benefit, this was more about improving the links so that investors and visitors from London and around the country can come to Ipswich.
    When complete we will finally have the beautiful gateway our town deserves. We must not underestimate the value of this to those who are coming to Ipswich to create jobs or spend money in our town centre. Please just ignore the rough sleeper on the Princes Street Bridge.

     

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    Begging is a nuisance, can make one fearful if the beggar has been drinking or aggressive.  As for the homeless, some created this for them selves, Some are on the street through no fault of theirs, made redundant, no savings   £60 something a week job seekers niether pay the bills. rent / mortgage or food.

    They have to sleep some where,  to get any help they need to go to france,throw their passport away.pretend they cant speak English and come back as refugees.

    In 2009 end of feb, after 29 years the firm closed down,thanks to Lloyds.  £67 a week, I was lucky I had a little saved, my mortgage paid off, so got through five weeks of this, then went on to pension credits of £120.  And yes I did go after jobs,but once they knew my age also I was diabetic, they came up with all sorts of reasons why I was not suitable for the job,favourite one you lack experience. So not every homeless person is an idle so and so.  Also I never claimed any other benefit, the only advantage I got was two computer courses free.

    These are my thoughts on begging  and homelessness,  it could have been me.

     

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    This morning at Ipswich Train Station there was a “homeless” beggar right below the second ATM machine asking for spare change. This was during peak morning rush hour.

    This is unacceptable. No BTP or Suffolk Police to be seen.

    It is very unlikely that staff (including the staff manning the ticket barrier gates) didn’t see this person a complete security risk. If it was something like a left luggage like a bag or suitcase – it would have been dealt with immediately.

    Ironically enough, the position near the hole-in-the-wall cash machine other than for footfall is a bit stupid – anyone getting money out of a cash machine in note denominations aren’t typically going to have change – coins. Especially when you consider the use of plastic credit cards and debit cards – for tickets and refreshments/food.

    This man might have been the person on the bridge above. Not enough information for a positive ID.

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