Police Advice: Use public transport when bridge is shut!

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    Such an out-of-touch suggestion by the police for motorists to use public transport instead of their car for a closed Orwell Bridge!

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    It is never practical to use public transport on congested roads… I understand the concept that if everyone used a bus while leaving their car at home it would in theory ease congestion but much of the traffic is non-Ipswich traffic… and you cannot carry shipping containers on the bus!

    Since when has it been the job of the police to preach support for public transport? I have never seen an on-duty police officer using the bus for non-emergencies…

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    what a load of old rubbish, they really have no idea.

    apparently under normal Ipswich rush hours conditions it took a bus an hour to get from the town centre to Heath Road hospital last night, what hope for anyone travelling if the bridge is shut..!

    I'm really quite cross now, so watch out!

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    New response….

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    Sadly due to twitter text limit I don’t come across too polite.

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    ironically from my personal experience of the traffic “chaos” during that last time the bridge was shut during the morning rush hour my trip into town centre by car took no longer. In fact having a queue of traffic outside the front door meant someone was willing to stop and let me out of the drive, whereas normally people travelling at 30-40 mph don’t do that, and then it was fairly clear going down into the town by my usual route from the North East. The issue is obviously traffic crossing the town for the most part, for which walking (the Geater option) and public transport (The Police option) offer no solutions at all..

     

     

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    I think it is partly due to the traffic and partly due to the bus company.

    I am working late again tonight. Roads are generally reasonable after 7pm. After 8pm quiet.

    The bus is always late! After 9pm there is no traffic on the road, how can the bus be late? (to add insult to injury I get there early to avoid missing it if it comes early) I noticed when I used to get the Ipswich Buses route 6 service, the driver would (I assume) be deliberately late to avoiding having to wait at Ipswich Hospital. I now wait for the Ipswich Buses route 6A coming from the hospital – and it is a similar story of always being late. To make things worse, having to wait at designated areas… Nacton Road Tesco Express, Cliff Lane etc. depending on the bus… if it is already late, they can’t reasonably be making up time!

    So not a technicality here, bus rotation at night just after the rush hour could be a reason… but not that late at night! Buses are allowed to be 1 minute early to 5 minutes late. Between 7 and 20 minutes frequently is unacceptable especially at this time of night, rather dangerous.

    The bus company is run by amateurs, don’t be surprised if they hit the wall. David Ellesmere has given me his word that a) they aren’t in dire straits (not that terminology) and b) they are not looking to sell it. Being petty this morning, I was at Park & Ride to get the 07:04 bus… it left one minute late (07:06 by some seconds), despite both bus and driver there for over 15 minutes and little passengers to pick up. Driver was fine but punctuality even for Park & Ride isn’t a priority. Well within the “5 minutes late” criteria but it is a terminus. Very pedantic I know. They utilise twitter as a customer service tool, however, infrequently use it… when someone gets some spare time (the person who used to do it got sacked for theft – or so is the rumour – not sure if connected to the £2000 theft by Ryan Ball) they might access it. Scroll down on https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%40ipswichbuses&src=typd back to December you will see lots of complaints they haven’t bothered to respond to. Also a lot of people saying their customer service number 0800 919390 doesn’t work – I haven’t had any luck since complaining about a driver last year who waited for me to approach the bus as Tesco Copdock before driving off… 4 minutes early! I thought they blocked my number and withheld calls. So the management is poor (Ipswich Buses used to be a really good company many years back) but they still have some really good drivers (including recent additions). Pot luck (or fate) of course to what driver you get. They have a hard time with workplace politics inside the company and have a history of prematurely dismissing people unlawfully.

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    Ipswich Buses Ltd lost Managing Director Jeremy Cooper and Finance Director Julie Dyson after they both quit the company. I believe they have a caretaker MD whilst operations are run by Operations Manager Andrew Cook.

    I am not sure if Jeremy Cooper was pushed out by the board as claimed by some drivers but on his departure everyone was much happier. People could see the increase in morale of drivers. Jeremy Cooper was pleasant to deal with through correspondence, Andrew Cook is not.  Stagecoach Jeremy wasn’t popular but he did try to negotiate road infrastructure investment with the council to improve public transport – this has to be respected – the fact of doing this before signing a contract, was stupid. He was likely forced to resign for losing the Ipswich Park & Ride contract.

    Julie Dyson is believed by an insider of the company to have quit over cash-flow concerns of new buses in particular. It is very worrying of two senior management departures in quick succession. The bus company has been going down hill for at least a decade. Ipswich Borough Council involvement is likely a factor. The arms-length limited company concept isn’t true – owner Ipswich Borough Council has a lot of control politically over the bus company and pulls a lot of strings.

    You will be aware of this when David Ellesmere came out against Suffolk County Council about the road closure of Ranelagh Road… despite Ipswich Borough Council having no responsibility for transport (Suffolk County Council holds that responsibility), it was for the bus company MD or board member to speak out about. Labour obviously thought the Leader of the Council would be a more senior figure holding more weight to the argument.

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