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    Once upon a time there was a travelipswich website. It kept the residents of this town informed about the project, what was being done, and where their money was being spent etc. This website was at http://www.travelipswich.co.uk. Some while ago the website disappeared, a shame really as people were still most interested in the project (they still are). So this evening when looking through my collection of “Ipswich” bookmarks I try the old http://www.travelipswich.co.uk link, and rather than a dead page, or a holding page, no, I get what appears to be a woman’s clothing store. So not only did SCC take down the original website, they didn’t hold onto the domain name either by the look if it…

    Now I know that I can find out info here;

    https://www.suffolk.gov.uk/roads-and-transport/roadworks/travel-ipswich/

    but that’s not the point, and anyway how much on that page is correct?

    Does this happen?

    Real time passenger information
    As part of the bus station improvement works, a state of the art real time passenger information system has been installed in the refurbished Old Cattle Market and Tower Ramparts Bus Stations.

    The screens are designed to display information when buses are due to arrive. This then enables passengers to get a more accurate picture of when a bus will arrive. 

    The buses are tracked and monitored so that information can be relayed to the screens. Passengers will then be able to see how long they will have to wait for their next bus.

    Is this all happening yet?

    Urban Traffic Management Control (UTMC)
    The computer controlled UTMC system has been introduced in the Ipswich area to manage traffic.

    The new system:

    co-ordinates traffic signals
    will operate variable-message signs to give drivers information on special events, or warnings of congestion or accidents
    makes it possible to give later running buses priority at junctions
     UTMC can create a better and more efficient way of managing traffic, including:

    better management of main roads into Ipswich, to smooth traffic flow and reduce congestion
    sensors along the road check the traffic flow and bus times
    traffic signal timings can be changed automatically to manage congestion, improve bus journey times and reduce pollution
    systems that inform the public about accidents, congestion and events through websites and apps
    information signs for motorists and real time information located at bus stops for bus passengers

    And best of all they list all the other “improvements” For example, this (with my added comments)

    Old Cattle Market Bus Station
    Changes made:

    installed new contemporary-style bus shelters (now broken, still leaking as they did since day one, no better than the old shelters)
    updated information boards for Real Time Passenger Information (RTPI) (really, is it actually doing what it should?)
    improved ticket office (slightly better than a portacabin)
    installed disable toilet facilities (yes, but nothing for anyone esle!!!)
    modernised drainage and lighting (it puddles badly down the southern end)
    widened and repaved footpaths (and let the weeds grow through them)
    landscaping at the southern end of the bus station (yes, nice)
    replaced neglected railings (with new railings already damaged and neglected again!!!)
    new night time taxi rank facility
    unsightly areas have had make-over (and are in some cases unsightly again with weeds and rubbish etc)
    fixed bollard added to prevent entry to/from the bus station at southern end (really, private cars and taxis etc. all drive around it as if it wasn’t there and large trucks who can’t do that now get stuck at the east end of Turret Lane where they can’t turn or if they try then damage the buildings on the corner, great idea that bollard)

     

     

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    Yeah, they deliberately allowed the domain to expire. They also pulled their twitter pages etc.

    We mirrored it onto TravelIpswich.com – only managed some pages and images from WebArchive – I was meaning to go back and redo the archive but didn’t get round to it.

    http://www.travelipswich.com/urban-traffic-management-control/
    http://www.travelipswich.com/real-time-passenger-information/
    http://www.travelipswich.com/what-is-happening-and-where/majors-mulberry-corner/

    Real Time Passenger Information was a shambles from day one. We approached Suffolk County Council who didn’t want to share their data so we could develop a phone app. Instead wanting us to pay for an API access through traveline… could easily be done with app adverts, but wanted to make a useful app: no upgrades or adverts.

    The RTPI boards currently show a time – that gets out of sync – the bus service listings are either fed with some GPS or fallback on a timetable. The RTPI screen shows “Expected” however, those times displayed are departure times, not arrival times. No technology was made to determine whether the bus has arrived or whether it has left. When the time comes it just disappears from the list. If the system fails connection or the last bus has gone.. it says “refer to timetable” rather than alerting people that no more services.

    RTPI won’t work and the reason why is bus operators aren’t pleased to share performance data. They are allowed to be “One Minute Early to 5 Minutes Late”. Probably why SCC won’t share data. With the diversions for Ranelagh Road closure the drivers got clever of leaving later at night (no night time supervisor) instead of waiting at bus stops to make up time. So buses leave 5-8 minutes late, drivers get an extended break. Not a chance of Ipswich Buses meeting 92% performance target. The 6 and 6a suffer at night with buses leaving late to prevent having to wait at the hospital. Just a few more weeks of Ranelagh Road closure left.

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    yes, the “travelipswich” twitter feed was useful. Several times I used it to complain about al the weeds growing around the shiny new display screen at the Old Cattle Market, and they responded to say they had alerted the team and they would get it tidied up.  That’s as far as it got though, the weeds never did get dealt with, until a year or so later.. they’re probably back again now..

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    Reminds me of Streetlife… those barriers on Woodbridge Road still haven’t been removed!

    However, they did finally sort out that damaged road sign.

    I must know nothing. I don’t know what is taking them so long doing Queen Street. I am sure it won’t be as bad as Princes Street time wise but I haven’t seen any noticeable changes in weeks?

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    I thought SCC acknowledged the temporary barriers had been forgotten about but didn’t now have the budget to do anything about them. The must have spent that somewhere else “winning” trees or something.. ;o)

    For the uninitiated we believe these temporary barriers at junction of Brunswick Road with Woodbridge Road have now been in place for over 12 months.

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    It has been much longer than 12 months agreed. Doesn’t appear on earlier streetview so we know it hasn’t been forever although it seems like it. I am wondering whether the barriers belong to SCC/Suffolk Highways or whether it is a utility company (hence the inaction)?

    As far as I know, the barriers seem to act as a visual indication of not hitting into the metal railings. There is railings behind (which have been hit by something)… so they are an addition rather than a temporary replacement.

    It just looks awful. I am tempted to go down myself and remove it.
    Resident: “Dear SCC, Thank you for FINALLY removing those barriers near Brunswick Road”
    SCC: What happened to the barrier?
    SCC->Suffolk Highways: “Please reinstate the barrier on Woodbridge Road/Brunswick Road roundabout!”

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    that roundabout exit is quite tight, buses squeeze through it but it can’t be easy for them. The temp barriers are a lot more visible than the metal barrier so probably safer!, lets assume the barrier gets fixed, it will no doubt get hit again quite quickly by bus or hgv.   Or as they have boasted about around the town centre as part of “travel ipswich” remove the barriers completely. They’ve done that at most of the junctions where work has been carried out, apart from at the Cattle Market bus station where new barriers went in, which have of course now all been hit, and not repaired..

     

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    They have thought about it but cannot do it because of the school. I am surprised they haven’t got rid of the mini roundabout and replaced it with traffic lights!

    The road shaping outside the co-op is silly. This is to reduce speed for the roundabout.

    I know everyone hates traffic lights (myself included) – but this is really the location to install it. Traffic lights should remain green for Woodbridge Road – except for pedestrians crossing the road and any traffic coming out of St Marys Road or Brunswick Road. Is the UTMC traffic light system clever enough to detect waiting vehicles?

    My original thought was to remove the mini roundabout and have a basic give-way junction. This would work for a St Mary’s Road T junction so would require Brunswick Road to be one-way (to Parade Road)… another thing people hate! Would allow some on-street resident parking spaces. This would reduce congestion on Woodbridge Road even if marginally.

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