Ipswich - The collapse of over £400 million of development

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  1. wrightie

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    Finally completed it. 14 minutes, over 20 large scale developments that collapsed in central Ipswich since 2004.


    There is typo on the Link development it says 2007 rather than 2011, but I cant change it now. This took far too long to make.

    All these proposals were worth around £475 million. If not more, some a have little info.
     
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    • dan5

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      Brilliant video... how can those in charge be proud of this record?

      One bugbear is how locally history has been rewritten with politicians are saying Tesco had pulled out due to their financial situation/risk of large stores, when not true, and was good to see this highlighted in the video. Ipswich Central destroyed the project?
       
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        wrightie

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        Thanks, I'v been working it on it for a while.

        Ipswich Central and Ipswich Society were very vocal in opposition. Ipswich Central wanted residential only by the looks of it. I imagine Tesco wanted to sell the development for a fortune but they were willing to develop the site and go through planning if someone bought it. Ipswich Central seemed to be against this more than the proposal itself.

        Personally, there are only a couple of proposals I didnt like, mostly, almost every student accommodation block, though, I suppose, you wont get a world class architect for some students. Except the Luminis student accommodation, there is not really an awful proposal, despite what The Ipswich Society says. Its amazing that so much willing investment collapsed, Imagine if the majority were accepted.
         
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          So this Grafton Way Tesco development could have been a Waitrose (and John Lewis) - a retailer they would have preferred over Tesco. I think ASDA got a mention at the time. Shame on Ipswich Central for getting involved and derailing Ipswich's development. The irony is they work for the town centre giants of the likes of M&S, Debenhams, Primark and (until recently) BHS. Not very different to Tesco! lol
           
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          Well that is capitalism 101. Whether we are talking a house, piece of land or a large development... you want the most money you can get for it and if you have the planning permission and designs etc. all ready to go (or a completed development) you can command a large price! I don't see what is wrong with that.

          For reference the above articles... (bold text, my own added emphasis)

          How has the BID organisation (pre-Ipswich Vision) had the authority to persuade the borough in refusing this project?!

          Two main points are as follows... despite this view, Ipswich Central were very supportive of the Futura Park having John Lewis... clearly out of town.

          The other point is this very land was earmarked for Employment Use (as a Retail Park) as of the Local Plan 1997 and this appears to have gone in favour of "town centre living" vision of Ipswich Central... despite not really being town centre.

          Interesting view by Paul Clement:-
          • How can something be "(too) big" and "too much competition" whilst being "uneconomic"?
          • Tower Ramparts Shopping Centre was acquired and given a face-lift and a new name (Sailmakers)... redeveloped refers to taking over the bus station site and linking it to the multi-storey car park!
          • Archant site, shops, offices and restaurants? "The link" went out of the window....
           

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